in some past episode () our hero was making a joke* about comments & trackbacks like so,

does this create a conversation? or does my lack of authority result in no public acknowledgment of my opinion.

and the person who talked about trackbacks answered!

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—woah woah woah feedback! sorry, new equipment

ok let’s try to have an actual cross-blog chat here. i hate doing this; to me it’s more natural where comment traffic is light to talk in the comments.

when you write a comment on someone else’s site, what you’re doing is saying that your own voice is less important, that you can only get attention by saying something in their space, not your own.

disagree. one of the sites i visit daily (even now in infohighway hemi-semi-hibernation) is where occasionally famous people and experts drop comments to clarify or amplify a point (as dave winer did on your earlier post, right). the site gets thousands of visitors and comments range into the dozens, highly moderated cuz there’s an astroturf culture war out there don’cha know (and there are hotheads like me, too).

maybe it’s the ‘only’ part — as in “you’re saying you can only get attention by saying something in their space” — that i don’t like, possibly. come now sir, you must be able to think of a few reasons why someone would rather blather in a distant public forum than rant locally.

There’s a couple of problems with this. First, on any popular site, there are so many comments that you might as well not bother. Once you have more than a few comments, people stop reading them.

both true and false. some blogs are built to create long debates in the comments and the regulars take it seriously, or at least they take their sub-thread of the stream seriously, and vote other comments up/down seriously, etc. right?

surely true that on such sites drive-by comments are not much use unless you’re tacking on a web resource or other practical info.

When I’ve had a popular post with many comments, I’ve ended up answering the same question over and over again because people haven’t read the answer I’ve already given.

every post can have its own FAQ in a bottom update. “many readers are asking why i have a pelican beak on my face…”

Second, and it’s worth saying again: A link is way, way more valuable to your own “equity” than a comment will ever be. The Daring Fireball link to my post on commenting has, so far, sent around 2,000 unique visitors my way. That’s 2,000 opportunities that people will sign up to my RSS feed, follow me on Twitter, or just remember my name and that I wrote something vaguely interesting. A comment on Daring Fireball would have delivered much less of that.

i dunno i think this part falls into finding the medium that fits the message. ‘web comment’ is one item on the ever-lengthening list of feedback methods including: magazine article, blog post, phone call, skywriting, youtube response, email, tweet, sticky note, sexting (super-sticky note), banging on the ceiling, writing on fb wall, singing telegram, vidchat, wiki entry, and on and on.** thank god we got rid of the fax machines, that was just too much to keep track of.

it’s no longer an art to choose the right medium, it’s like random. if it feels appropriate you should probably also buy a lottery ticket, it’s your day.

Hopefully, a few of those people will be inspired to write something on their own blogs, too.

yeah that wouldn’t be bad.

if you want to talk about the process of formal corrections and addenda across blogs, especially widely-read blogs where mistakes matter, getting into formal/informal communication and such, that probably fits here somewhere too, right.

*there are many unique & special ways to be funny